Sorry, Not sorry.
lovegunnumber2:
uncutting:
leastwicked:
You are right, there is a reason. Three of them, actually.
1) female infant circumcision is usually practiced by people who practice Islam. The United States is a horribly Islamiphobic nation. It got much more attention for being ‘savage’ and ‘barabaric’ even…
also when they circumcise females what they are cutting off is flesh, nerve endings, sometimes the clitoris, and folds of skin which are there to protect your body by keeping things out.
it’s not just a flap of skin not that there’s any real reason to do it to males but
“also when they circumcise females what they are cutting off is flesh, nerve endings, sometimes the clitoris, and folds of skin which are there to protect your body by keeping things out.”
You mean the exact same thing that a foreskin is? It serves the same function as the clitoral hood on a vulva, except it’s about 7 square inches of skin rather than one or two. It has endless amounts of nerve endings, it is a fold of skin to protect the glans of the penis. It’s flesh, nerve endings, and folds of skin.
This isn’t a competition about which one is worse than the other. This isn’t about which one is more painful, or more unacceptable. This is about protecting the bodies of infants that undergo needles surgeries. Both FGM and RIC are purely cosmetic procedures done on individuals entirely unable of giving consent, or against their consent.
MRAs have just reached a-whole-nother level of stupid.
myasphyxiatedmind:
sofarfromshameless:
myasphyxiatedmind:
sofarfromshameless:
myasphyxiatedmind:
sofarfromshameless:
thatfeministdyke:
sanityscraps:
This guy clearly
- can’t read his own cited sources
- has never seen a vagina
He gives me a link to a source that says the most common form of male genital mutilation is the removal of the foreskin, but none for what the most common form is for females. And yet he tries to compare apples to oranges, saying that this form of mutilation is WORSE than the full removal of the clitoris.
Dude.
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A VAGINA?
- I’m out. Gonna smoke my problems away.
MRAs. Achieving new heights of ignorance since… pretty much forever.
Sorry, but neither is worse than the other. Both are purely cosmetic procedures preformed on non-consenting individuals without anesthetic with primitive tools. (With the exception of male infant circumcisions preformed in a medical setting)
They’re not really apples an oranges. Both are fucked up, and neither should be performed on infants or other non-consenting individuals.
Yeah, I don’t think you realize what is done to girls when it comes to certain types of female genital mutilation. Plus, you said yourself that female genital mutilation is typically done outside of a medical setting.
Both are horrific things and need to stop, but to say they’re equal is… just, no.
I do realize what happens. I know what both of them are, I know the types of male and female GM.
But, the majority of harsher versions of MGM also happen outside of medical settings. There are equal extremes of both MGM and FGM.
Comparing FGM involving removing the labia, clitoris and sewing the vagina shut to MGM removing the foreskin is apples and oranges. However, comparing FGM clitoridectomy to MGM circumcision is kind of reasonable, because they both include removal of natural sexual organs that have no reason the be removed and are both excruciatingly painful. So is comparing other variations of FGM and MGM that equal each other in severity.
I’m just saying we need to stop arguing about which is worse (because both have equally severe types), ignore the MRAs saying “WHAT ABOUT MGM?!” And just put a stop to both, because both are equally fucked up, both have equal gradients of fucked-up-ness.
Wait… did you just say that the full removal of the clitoris on a female is equal to the removal of the foreskin on a male? Did I read that right?
I’m just going to stop right here and say let’s not take this further, because I can already tell from you’re tone that you’re just going to rage all over the place. And it’s not going to matter what I say, because I’m not going to be listened to.
I’m not raging, I’m just completely stunned that you just compared the full removal of the clitoris to the removal of foreskin. Like. Seriously.
Okay… As long as you don’t rage on me, and we can have a civil conversation, can we continue this conversation through messages? (Please don’t take that as me being a sarcastic bitch… I promise I’m not)
Because, I’m willing to discuss this like a rational person, without anger and with facts. Mostly because if I’m wrong in my opinion/thoughts, I want to know and be corrected.
MRAs have just reached a-whole-nother level of stupid.
myasphyxiatedmind:
sofarfromshameless:
myasphyxiatedmind:
sofarfromshameless:
thatfeministdyke:
sanityscraps:
This guy clearly
- can’t read his own cited sources
- has never seen a vagina
He gives me a link to a source that says the most common form of male genital mutilation is the removal of the foreskin, but none for what the most common form is for females. And yet he tries to compare apples to oranges, saying that this form of mutilation is WORSE than the full removal of the clitoris.
Dude.
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A VAGINA?
- I’m out. Gonna smoke my problems away.
MRAs. Achieving new heights of ignorance since… pretty much forever.
Sorry, but neither is worse than the other. Both are purely cosmetic procedures preformed on non-consenting individuals without anesthetic with primitive tools. (With the exception of male infant circumcisions preformed in a medical setting)
They’re not really apples an oranges. Both are fucked up, and neither should be performed on infants or other non-consenting individuals.
Yeah, I don’t think you realize what is done to girls when it comes to certain types of female genital mutilation. Plus, you said yourself that female genital mutilation is typically done outside of a medical setting.
Both are horrific things and need to stop, but to say they’re equal is… just, no.
I do realize what happens. I know what both of them are, I know the types of male and female GM.
But, the majority of harsher versions of MGM also happen outside of medical settings. There are equal extremes of both MGM and FGM.
Comparing FGM involving removing the labia, clitoris and sewing the vagina shut to MGM removing the foreskin is apples and oranges. However, comparing FGM clitoridectomy to MGM circumcision is kind of reasonable, because they both include removal of natural sexual organs that have no reason the be removed and are both excruciatingly painful. So is comparing other variations of FGM and MGM that equal each other in severity.
I’m just saying we need to stop arguing about which is worse (because both have equally severe types), ignore the MRAs saying “WHAT ABOUT MGM?!” And just put a stop to both, because both are equally fucked up, both have equal gradients of fucked-up-ness.
Wait… did you just say that the full removal of the clitoris on a female is equal to the removal of the foreskin on a male? Did I read that right?
I’m just going to stop right here and say let’s not take this further, because I can already tell from you’re tone that you’re just going to rage all over the place. And it’s not going to matter what I say, because I’m not going to be listened to.
MRAs have just reached a-whole-nother level of stupid.
myasphyxiatedmind:
sofarfromshameless:
thatfeministdyke:
sanityscraps:
This guy clearly
- can’t read his own cited sources
- has never seen a vagina
He gives me a link to a source that says the most common form of male genital mutilation is the removal of the foreskin, but none for what the most common form is for females. And yet he tries to compare apples to oranges, saying that this form of mutilation is WORSE than the full removal of the clitoris.
Dude.
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A VAGINA?
- I’m out. Gonna smoke my problems away.
MRAs. Achieving new heights of ignorance since… pretty much forever.
Sorry, but neither is worse than the other. Both are purely cosmetic procedures preformed on non-consenting individuals without anesthetic with primitive tools. (With the exception of male infant circumcisions preformed in a medical setting)
They’re not really apples an oranges. Both are fucked up, and neither should be performed on infants or other non-consenting individuals.
Yeah, I don’t think you realize what is done to girls when it comes to certain types of female genital mutilation. Plus, you said yourself that female genital mutilation is typically done outside of a medical setting.
Both are horrific things and need to stop, but to say they’re equal is… just, no.
I do realize what happens. I know what both of them are, I know the types of male and female GM.
But, the majority of harsher versions of MGM also happen outside of medical settings. There are equal extremes of both MGM and FGM.
Comparing FGM involving removing the labia, clitoris and sewing the vagina shut to MGM removing the foreskin is apples and oranges. However, comparing FGM clitoridectomy to MGM circumcision is kind of reasonable, because they both include removal of natural sexual organs that have no reason the be removed and are both excruciatingly painful. So is comparing other variations of FGM and MGM that equal each other in severity.
I’m just saying we need to stop arguing about which is worse (because both have equally severe types), ignore the MRAs saying “WHAT ABOUT MGM?!” And just put a stop to both, because both are equally fucked up, both have equal gradients of fucked-up-ness.
MRAs have just reached a-whole-nother level of stupid.
thatfeministdyke:
sanityscraps:
This guy clearly
- can’t read his own cited sources
- has never seen a vagina
He gives me a link to a source that says the most common form of male genital mutilation is the removal of the foreskin, but none for what the most common form is for females. And yet he tries to compare apples to oranges, saying that this form of mutilation is WORSE than the full removal of the clitoris.
Dude.
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A VAGINA?
- I’m out. Gonna smoke my problems away.
MRAs. Achieving new heights of ignorance since… pretty much forever.
Sorry, but neither is worse than the other. Both are purely cosmetic procedures preformed on non-consenting individuals without anesthetic with primitive tools. (With the exception of male infant circumcisions preformed in a medical setting)
They’re not really apples an oranges. Both are fucked up, and neither should be performed on infants or other non-consenting individuals.
